Putting the Snarc’s on the tools has been talked about for generations of
people moving through the space.
“Putting the Snarc’s on the tools” - IS HACKING. It’s hacking from so
many levels. It’s electronics, it’s hardware, it’s for improving
processes ( less misplaced tools means other can hack more and better, less
broken tools mean the same), it’s for security ( a better audit trail ,
and more visibility into if any tools go away and don’t come back).
I personally don’t care which is why I have not done it. All it does is
stop or slow someone down from hacking.
THat’s rubbish. What it does is enable more people to hack, as there’s
less “wheres the cordless drill gone”, or “who broke the curcular saw”.
These sorts of things are clearly “less hacking”, as there are people who
want to be, but are prevented.
The argument is always because they will break a consumable.
Actually, no, that’s not really the main argument, it’s just a beneficial
side-effect. It’s about making people put the equipment back where it
belongs, so everyone can find it, share it, and use it.
HSBNE should not supply consumable items eg. any item that is normally
supplied to a employee. For me the space is about the people, tools and
space.
I get all my tools supplied to me at work, they are always where they
should be, and always put back. I also get a clean desk, and as much
real coffee as I can drink, gratis. None of these are
“consiumables”… consumables are printer paper, toner, toilet paper,
iso-wipes,
We buy stuff that never gets installed.
that’s nothing to do with tools, that’s purely to do with the fact that not
enough people actively engage in caring enough about the facilities to
improve the place.
Everyone, please ask yourself this privately: When was the last time you
helped make HSBNE better. I don’t mean turn up and sweep the floors, I
mean improve the processes, the facilities, the systems? If we’d had
just 5% of members people offer to do just 1 hour a week, the entire
security system would be fully installed, and amazing!.
When someone does do something like when I built a prototype for the tool
armory ages ago. I got critisied so much by members I decided to abandon
the project and left it in Josh’s hands. (this is not a criticism of Josh
we discussed options and worked excellently together on that project. Josh
took all of my suggestions on board and it was not his critique that made
me abandon the project)
I think you got stung by too much cookie-licking. ( other people standing
around saying “you are doing it wrong, do it like X”, while at the same
time not actually then doing it themselves ).
I am guilty of critiquing people’s projects poorly. We all have done it
by not communicating what we are saying effectively. I put my hand up to
say hey I have seen this problem in myself and others around me have been
doing it too.
This is a group culture problem and needs be addressed by the group not
the executive.
FInally, something I agree with.! Less with the cookie-licking
everyone. I saw some people doing it again on Tuesday! No, I will not
name-names, lets just say the offending words were something like “oh, I
was planning to do that this week”, so the original person stepped back,
and didn’t do it either.
HSBNE has a massive amount of awesome people come to the space a couple
of times and then leave. I think we need to look at ourselves and ask why
we have not grown in membership and what we can all do to support each
others projects.
Agrteed.
@merseyless
http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30125684/forum.hsbne.org?p=eyJzIjoiclVCMGJ0b3JBRnN0T2h3QVZoaDl0dVNydnFBIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDEyNTY4NCxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvZm9ydW0uaHNibmUub3JnXFxcL3VzZXJzXFxcL21lcnNleWxlc3NcIixcImlkXCI6XCI5NjNiYWFiNDZhMmI0NDM1ODM4MzE4MDJlZWNmZjViZVwiLFwidXJsX2lkc1wiOltcIjhjMDBlODQ4YTc4Y2M1ODA4MTc4ZGJhMTIyZmY2ZDdjMmEyY2FkZDBcIl19In0
stop trying to fork the snarc project
Agreed. Why not just help the existing project go in the direction it’s
already going? We need more of that.!
@nogthree
http://mandrillapp.com/track/click/30125684/forum.hsbne.org?p=eyJzIjoiQWI5eWkzSmVKZWdRSVA4WUxPRFJhc1NQSV9vIiwidiI6MSwicCI6IntcInVcIjozMDEyNTY4NCxcInZcIjoxLFwidXJsXCI6XCJodHRwOlxcXC9cXFwvZm9ydW0uaHNibmUub3JnXFxcL3VzZXJzXFxcL25vZ3RocmVlXCIsXCJpZFwiOlwiOTYzYmFhYjQ2YTJiNDQzNTgzODMxODAyZWVjZmY1YmVcIixcInVybF9pZHNcIjpbXCI5YTE2ZDBiZTllNzMzNGQ5OWZkMDViYWUwMjdiODVmZWE4MTJkMGZkXCJdfSJ9
using power to track power use uses more power.
Actually, that’s irrelevant. If I use 5mW of power to track the usage of
5kW the savings we can get totally swamp the amount of power used by the
monitoring setup.
Buzz.