Ideas for discussion

[Zac_Marcus1 (Zac Marcus)]

Hi Dylan,

I’ll go through your three points:

#1 Saw Inductions

@Doxle

One of the contentious discussion points over the last few weeks has been around the use of the table saw. I have no desire for us to dig up arguments about this again, but at a basic level, I propose that we need a firm date, line in the sand, to work toward for inductions and usage of the saw. There are lots of people who have been / are willing to contribute to making this happen, and given that it has been a major point of frustration/contention I’d like to reinforce the previous suggestion we have a goal date to work towards.

@Wixted

re: your first point, @Zac_Marcus1 was testing the inductions material last night. the comprehension test should be done by tuesday and inductions will be rolling through from then.

@DreadPirateRobinson

testing an incomplete system seems dangerous. the script isnt a script it is bullet points and relies on expert knowledge to deliver and patch the holes. it needs to be complete and comprehensive to allow more than just one person to do inductions before we do anything at all also i thought we didnt do spur of the moment inductions

@Doxle

perhaps it could be suggested that a final draft of the proposed docs is posted to the group for review. I dont think anyone wants to hold up inductions but there should be general agreement.

I’ve written up a debrief on the induction run through I went through in this thread

Specifically around everyones feedback in this thread, I’m quite happy for the group to go through any approvals on the materials if they so wish, but this document is going to be a living document for a while as we figure out what things do and dont work and whats important to iterate or not. So its going to change substantially in contact with actual students over the coming weeks.

One of the points that was raised at the last cause meeting was a feeling that the materials were being written from scratch, and that there were QUT provided documents we could utilise or adapt. I’ve gone back through slack and pulled the referenced documents and there are no documents in there pertaining to table saws unfortunately. So if anyone has the correct document referenced prior I’d love to see it to adapt it into our existing materials.

As to @DreadPirateRobinson’s concerns around spur of the moment inductions, I think I can clarify my own thoughts there. The space in general is attempting to move away from inductions that are held from memory by the induction teacher, and to more scripts, videos, written materials etc. So spur of the moment in the sense that the teacher is just going through what they remember, absolutely we are trying to avoid that. In terms of timing, I’m hoping to allocate at least one induction session every tuesday or so in the future, depending how we go. However if an induction teacher wants to run more, say a busy night happens and theres time for a second session, its absolutely their call to do that.

In terms of getting more teachers, I’m absolutely keen to work with anyone that wants to help run inductions, and I think the process for that will be to co-run a few inductions and then proceed normally from there.

#2 Cause Meetings

I’m personally interested in maybe moving to a fortnightly meeting if people are interested? We could do weekly but I’m not sure if that will provide much more utility. The cause will obviously over time change it as it fits us.

#3 Material Sales on site

I’ve wanted this for ages and ages and ages. So if you want to run that, let me know how I can support you and I will try my best. Great idea. Perhaps a v1 could be just having it secured somewhere and doing cash sales on tuesdays, and the technology can follow?